For PSL clients that have generated hundreds, or thousands, of aged leads… are literally sitting on a gold mine.

Now that we know for a fact that PSL listing leads actually convert from Leads to Listings up to 25-30% of the time (you can read why here:, we need to have a initial contact and followup game plan that takes into account TIME FRAME. The reason that time frame is important is that typically followup plans are front heavy – the vast majority of the actions (phone calls, text messages, emails, etc) happen at the beginning, while as more time goes by less actions are occurring.

The data so far is showing very clearly that with PSL Seller Leads, as more time goes by the more valuable those PSL leads are, and the greater the chance that they will turn into a listing. For example, we can now tell that in the first 12 months a PSL lead has on average a 10% chance of turning into a listing. From 12-18 months a PSL lead has a 15% chance of turning into a listing. From 18-24 months a PSL lead has on average a 20% chance of turning into a listing. Once we reach 3 years that listing percentage has increased to almost 30% on average. It’s easy to see that the longer these leads have to be nurtured, the more likely they are to turn into a listing.

So let’s break this down. Let’s say that on March 6th, 2017 you generated 100 PSL leads and then stopped generating any new leads. We can expect that 10% of those initial 100 leads, or 10 of them, will have already turned into listings and sold whether with you or another agent. That leaves us 90 PSL leads that still have value. Over the next 6-12 months we can confidently say that at least another 5-10 of those original 100 leads are going to turn into listings. If we take it out to 3 years, we can expect approximately another 15-20 listings from that original 100 leads. Because WE NOW KNOW WHEN these leads are most valuable (the older they are), and when we have the greatest chance of turning them into a listing (after 6-12 months) we should adjust our followup methods so that MORE ACTIONS (phone calls, texts, emails, etc) are occurring WHEN the lead has the greatest chance of turning into a listing – as they age! – instead of the vast majority of the actions taking place when they are brand new.

For PSL clients that have generated hundreds, or thousands, of aged leads… are literally sitting on a gold mine.

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What percentage of your PSL leads actually turn into LISTINGS and SELL?

What percentage of your PSL leads actually turn into LISTINGS and SELL? Now, once and for all, I can finally give all of you definitive numbers.

I have checked the lead information for random clients that have leads ranging from 3+ years old to brand new, against their local MLS data to see if each lead turned into a LISTING AND SOLD AFTER the client received the lead.

Well over 100,000 leads from different clients have been checked and verified. Here are 7 examples for random clients:

Client #1 – 15% of PSL Leads turned into Listings and Sold – Out of 963 total PSL leads generated from January 2016 through September 2017, 149 of those leads turned into Listings AND Sold AFTER this client received those leads. 149 listings out of 963 leads. 15% of Client #1’s leads turned into listings and sold.

Client #2 – 24% of PSL Leads turned into Listings and Sold – Out of 1004 total PSL leads generated from April 2015 through September 2017, 240 of those leads turned into Listings AND Sold AFTER this client received those leads. 240 listings out of 1004 leads. 24% of Client #2’s leads turned into listings and sold.

Client #3 – 4% of PSL Leads turned into Listings and Sold – Out of 217 total PSL leads generated from May 2017 through August 2017, 9 of those leads turned into Listings AND Sold AFTER this client received those leads. 9 listings out of 217 leads. 4% of Client #3’s leads turned into listings and sold.

Client #4 – 17% of PSL Leads turned into Listings and Sold – Out of 4,474 total PSL leads generated from May 2014 through September 2017, 741 of those leads turned into Listings AND Sold AFTER this client received those leads. 741 listings out of 4,474 leads. 17% of Client #4’s leads turned into listings and sold.

Client #5 – 10% of PSL Leads turned into Listings and Sold – Out of 828 total PSL leads generated from June 2016 through December 2017, 82 of those leads turned into Listings AND Sold AFTER this client received those leads. 82 listings out of 828 leads. 10% of Client #5’s leads turned into listings and sold.

Client #6 – 25% of PSL Leads turned into Listings and Sold – Out of 9,326 total PSL leads generated from February 2014 through December 2017, 2,316 of those leads turned into Listings AND Sold AFTER this client received those leads. 2,316 listings out of 9,326 leads. 25% of Client #6’s leads turned into listings and sold.

Client #7 – 22% of PSL Leads turned into Listings and Sold – Out of 788 total PSL leads generated from February 2014 through December 2017, 171 of those leads turned into Listings AND Sold AFTER this client received those leads. 171 listings out of 788 leads. 22% of Client #7’s leads turned into listings and sold.

OVERALL FOR EXAMPLE CLIENTS #1-7 – 21% of PSL Leads turned into Listings and Sold – 3708 listings out of 17,600 leads.

The more PSL Leads age, the more they turn into listings. Our lead data only goes back to late 2013, however I would expect these percentages to keep rising as time goes by.

Client #3 is a great example. They did not get one listing from those initial 217 leads. 9 listings SO FAR have been lost. I’m going to conservatively say that within 2 years 20-25% of those leads should have turned into listings. This is useful information for this client, because now he can be confident that there are an additional 34-46 listings SOLELY from the original 217 leads that were generated from 5/2017 through 8/2017.

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Why you SHOULD NOT work with online lead generation companies

Most of you SHOULD NOT work with online lead generation companies. NEVER. Would you like to know the 100% truth about online real estate lead generation? I own a lead generation company, and I highly doubt you’ll ever hear anyone in my position actually try and discourage you from using their

service. I’m going to, because for the majority of agents it’s a complete and utter waste of time. There is a very specific reason why that I


will outline below. This doesn’t just go for my company, but ALL lead generation companies. Online lead generation is NOT a get rich quick scheme, or for people who need a near INSTANT return on their investment. Unfortunately, it does not work like that. Want to know the simple truth of why you are going to fail working with online buyer or seller leads? Read on…..

Most agents will fail because they are impatient. I get it, you work hard for your money and you want to see a return on your investment ASAP. Unless you start thinking of your lead generation efforts as an actual investment through, a 3-18-month investment, it’s not going to work. You will not be successful. Is that to say that none of your leads will be “right now” I want to buy a home right away or have an agent list my home this weekend? Of course not, that happens all of the time. Can you be 100% sure that is always going to be the case though? No way. Life, and internet real estate lead generation, do not work like that.

This is the reality of internet real estate lead generation: working with online buyer or seller leads is HARD WORK. You have to pick up the phone and call. Your leads may not answer the phone on the first call, or even after 10 attempts of calling or texting them. Just because they filled out a buyer registration form, or a home valuation, today doesn’t mean that they are ready right this minute to buy or sell. They may be 3 months away, 6 months away, 12 months away. It’s more than possible that they are just STARTING to think about buying or selling. However, the idea to buy or sell a home most certainly had to start at some place in time. I would say that it’s FANTASTIC for you and your business that they are starting this process on your website, so that YOU can guide them and be their trusted source right at the beginning. For the vast majority of people, buying a home is the largest investment they will ever make in their lives, while selling their home can be the most stressful. It’s not unrealistic at all to think that they will take their time, think carefully and weigh all of their options before deciding to act. You need to wait until they are READY, WILLING and ABLE. They need to be all three. We are expecting them to be ready on OUR time frame, not theirs. Because of this, most agents need to change their thinking. If they do not, they are setting themselves up for disappointment and failure.

Most agents simply give up and say online leads are junk because they don’t want to put in the time and effort to properly work and nurture these leads. The ones that do though are HIGHLY successful.

Be honest with yourself, and answer the following questions:

* Are you going keep calling your leads day after day even if they aren’t responding?

* If they do pick up the phone and say they are just curious right now and to call them back in 6 months… will you do it?

* Are you willing to put in the time and effort to consistently follow up and nurture these leads? Do you have the patience to do so?

* Do you have the funds available to purchase advertising and generate leads for more than 30 days?

* Are you prepared for the possibility that you may not get a commission check within the first 30 days?

If you answered “No” to any of those questions above, then save your money and do not attempt to work with any sort of buyer or seller lead generation company.

So how are you going to be successful working with online buyer or seller leads? There really isn’t any magic formula or secret sauce. It’s through hard work and perseverance. You have to get up every single day and keep doing the same exact thing that you did the day before. You pick up the phone, and you call. You text. You send emails. You send BombBomb videos. Then you do it again the next day. If a lead says call back in 3 months, you call back sooner and check in on them. If you do this, you WILL be successful. It works, because there are too many agents absolutely killing it and making a TON of money by using this simple formula. You spent YOUR hard-earned money to generate the leads, and those leads are worth money. Lots of money! If you put in the time and effort, and treat your leads as an investment, you will win. Now it’s up to you to decide – what type of agent are you going to be? Do you think it’s worth it to invest your time and energy for long term success? Or do you want and need instant gratification? Only you know, and only you can make that business decision. I know what your competitors are hoping you will do!

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Success Story – Ryan Barnett

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I am currently at a 5 to 1 ROI (net after all commission splits and advertising costs of $10-$20 per day) after about 18 months with another PSL currently listed and a few more solid in the pipeline. I think it will wash out to close to 7 or 8 to 1 ROI. I am perfectly fine with those numbers. It is not something I would count on as my only source of business by any means but fits great in to the overall plan. If you follow up consistently (which I admit I could have been more consistent) you will succeed.

Ryan Barnett

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Success Story – Kaleo Ahina

Just listed my second PSL lead generated property! Two in less than a year. 12 more PSL lead generated properties very closer to listing too. I do understand the usual turn around to list a property is 4-48 months!

Kaleo Ahina




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The Phone is your friend……pick it up and dial

The last tool that I will share today that is essential to proper follow up for real estate lead generation is the best one yet. If you aren’t using this tool you are missing out, and quite frankly shouldn’t be working internet real estate leads…….so what is this magical tool?

The phone! The phone is your best friend, and the lifeblood of your lead generation nurturing. Want to be successful and book more buyer appointments and listing presentations? Pick up the phone and call. Keep calling. Don’t just stop with one phone call if they don’t answer. Keep trying. Yes, you can use text messaging, emails, voicemail blasts, on-exit popups…..however eventually you are going to need to talk to them on the phone. It may take LOTS of phone calls over many months for some leads to pickup the phone or respond to you. That’s alright. You still want to sell a home in 6 months right? The vast majority of your competitors will give up after a phone call or two. If you don’t give up and keep calling, you will be successful. Call quickly, as soon as the lead comes in, and then keep calling. There is nothing else I can say except to keep dialing.

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On Exit Pop Up – Generate MORE Leads

For the next tool that I consider essential to proper follow up for real estate lead generation…….on-exit popups. Full disclosure again – on this one I do personally have a product that will be released very soon called Prime Exit. I hesitated to even post this because of that. However, everyone who has a PSL site will be getting Prime Exit for free anyways, and there are no shortage of these products out there. I honestly don’t care which one that you use, just pick one and use it!

So what is an on-exit popup? It’s a true game changer. Day one you should see an increase in leads by AT LEAST 50% even with your current traffic levels. You don’t need to generate more traffic to see this minimum of 50% increase in leads….it will happen with whatever traffic you have right now. We have used it internally here for months, and we have way MORE than doubled our daily lead flow just from using on-exit popups.

Here is how it works, and pretty much every company offering this works the same way…….there is a piece of javascript code that you place on your website, just like you would with Google Analytics tracking codes. Whenever a website visitor takes an action with their mouse to move towards closing their browser itself OR the tab they are viewing your site in…..BOOM……the on-exit pop up comes up on the screen. You simply need an engaging offer to place in the pop up. If they want to receive this offer they need to provide you with their lead information. Everything is going to depend on the offer. It’s going to need to be unique and worthwhile. The better the offer, the more leads that you will get. These on-exit popups also work fantastic for mobile traffic.

Most companies will offer various options in their backends where you can also set the on-exit popup to appear not only when taking action to leave the browser or tab, but also it can be set on a timer for it to pop after any time frame, such as 30 seconds. You can also set it to pop if someone scrolls halfway down the page, 75% of the way down the page, back up the page if they have already reached the bottom.

For those of you with concerns if it will affect your organic Google rankings the answer is NO. It will not. I have these placed on websites that rank #1 in Google for their targeted keywords for many months now, and the rankings did not change at all.

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BombBomb – Use this!

BombBomb. I’m sure that quite a few of you are already using it. Most of you though are not, for the same reason that I’ve been hesitant at times in the past to use it… You don’t want to make a video of yourself. I get it. It’s uncomfortable. You might not think you present well on video. Maybe you are self conscious. Forget all of that. If all goes well you have to go see them in person anyways right? More importantly, this is a fantastic tool that works. BombBomb also makes it super easy for you to record quick videos from your computer or even your phone. Send each of your leads a quick 15 to 30 second personalized video. Use their name in it so that they know it was made just for them. Everyone these days is used to getting mass emails however it is quite apparent that those emails are not being sent to just one person. Your personalized BombBomb video email will stand out. It will get their attention. Guaranteed. Devote an hour a day a few times per week to mining your database with these video emails and you WILL get responses and more business from it. Be consistent though….if the first few videos don’t get responses PLEASE don’t give up! Keep going. Most Realtors want instant gratification (we all do!) and will quit right away and stop. However life doesn’t always work like that. THIS IS YOUR ADVANTAGE! Over time you will definitely start hearing back from some of these people. Also….BombBomb will tell you every time someone opens your email AND plays your video. You can then take it a step further and personalize your next video to that person even more. I’m so confident this will work I’m almost tempted to say I’ll pay for it if doesn’t work for you….but I won’t lol. You get my point though. Don’t wait. Start this right away and you can thank me later 🙂

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Angry Leads – Your Valuation of my home is TERRIBLE

Do your leads ever complain that the valuation that they received is not accurate from your seller lead generation site? Are you worried that a “bad” valuation is going to make you look bad to your leads? Charlene Scala Weston was recently asking me about this, and shared with me an email how she responds to her leads that bring up this point. Perhaps she would be kind enough to share it below in the comments.

Any home valuation tool is simply an automated system that instantly shows an estimated value of a home. Because it’s an automated valuation, it’s never going to be 100% accurate. The goal is to be within 15-20% of the home’s true value, which the vast majority of the time these valuations are. Occasionally, the valuation is off by more than this. It does happen. Although this is not necessarily a bad thing. There isn’t an automated system on Earth that can take into consideration the unique factors that will affect a home’s true value. Automated valuations will not know if the person’s home has new windows, new flooring, a new kitchen, etc. All of you are experts in your respective markets, so you understand these unique factors can affect the true value of a home.

The automated valuation is not meant to replace a CMA, or an actual appraisal. Clients will generally understand this if you explain it to them. What many of our agents do as well is let their leads know this, and then tell them that they will be in their neighborhood tomorrow afternoon and could they stop by and peek their head into the home real quick, so that they can see the unique factors of their home. They explain that after viewing the home quickly they can provide a much more accurate value of what the home is really worth.

Additionally, if the valuation was 100% accurate, then potential clients would not really have any need to talk with you about what their home is worth!

The ultimate goal of providing these valuations is to help you build rapport, and cultivate a relationship, with these potential sellers. It opens the door to start a conversation and to gauge their intentions.

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Success Story – Kevin Smits

Got our first listing lead from PrimeISA today! I sent over my login yesterday evening and by 6pm had our first motivated seller. Looking forward to the next one and the next one…;)

Kevin Smits

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Success Story – Vischa Savitri

I just started PSL ISA couple of days ago and I got my first appointment today ….YIPPEEE….. $500 K price range. Sell and Buy….
Looking forward for more …. keep them coming… 🙂

Vischa Savitri

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Success Story – Sibel Inanlar

It’s been 10 days for my PSL and I got my first listing appointment first week of ads. She also will buy after selling. it’s a great system and great leads. Thank you PSL team.

Sibel Inanlar

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Persistence – Do NOT Give up on those Leads

The power of proper follow up never ceases to amaze me. We have been calling a particular clients lead that came in at the end of March for 3 weeks now. After 16 phone calls, the lead finally answered the phone and stated they will be ready to sell in 3 months and want the agent to come out to their home to start getting ready to put the home on the market. Call your leads, keep calling, don’t give up. I honestly don’t care if you have us calling them, another company, or even better you calling them yourself. Just keep calling them. I promise if you do you will get listings. Persistence pays off in the long run.

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Success Story – Jason Pence

I just got a $470,000 listing I got off of Prime Seller leads! Our MLS average closing price is about $130,000, so this is a premium listing. The seller texted me an answer from my initial automatic text, and it all worked out.


Jason Pence


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Success Story – Gabrielle Blanchard Carneglia

Just joined and my Prime ISA already got me a listing appt! Keep them coming! ??????????????????

Gabrielle Blanchard Carneglia



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